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good evening everyone you're in the

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right place at the right time this is

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Coast to Coast AM blasting out of the

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Mojave Desert like a Scirocco blazing

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across the land slamming into your radio

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like a supercharged nano particle of

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unobtainium

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readings from the boldest body's most

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outrageous city in the world the

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planetary capital of Sun fun sin sex and

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secrets my not so humble hometown Las

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Vegas Nevada my name is George Knapp

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your occasional host designated driver

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of the airwaves and moderator of

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tonight's upcoming cacophonous cavalcade

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of conversation tonight we journey back

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in time at least back in time for me to

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the point where I started down this

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weird Road the subject area 51 groom

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Lake dreamland the box paradise ranch

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probably a lot of other names we aren't

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allowed to know it's kind of a

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contradiction in terms in a sense the

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world's best-known

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secret base I'm using air quotes around

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the secret it is a top-secret facility

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that has played a crucial role in the

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protection of our national security but

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which has been so secretive so

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over-the-top and hiding what goes on out

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there that it has spawned all kinds of

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wild stories it's the base that didn't

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exist at least for a lot of years it was

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there and then poof it's gone like

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Brigadoon like the stealth aircraft that

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spawned for those of you who do not live

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in caves or under rocks area 51 is back

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on the front burner these days the base

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that didn't exist has found a whole new

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audience and is once again at the

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forefront of UFO arguments and

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discussions you know I mentioned a

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couple of times on the program in the

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last month or so and in several stories

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that we've written and aired for klas TV

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the

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dorm area 51 movement that's what you

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like to call it as I've expressed before

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you know the first rule of storm area 51

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is don't storm area 51 don't do it don't

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try to cross the line out there not even

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if there are a million people which is

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you know pretty unlikely number by the

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way we'll get into that a little bit

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later but is there something less

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drastic that might help move the ball

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down the field make a difference push

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for transparency while at the same time

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being perish the thought

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fun as well well maybe so tonight we'll

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look at how this happened what provided

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the current spark the historical context

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that provided the fuel for the fire

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that's burning now and what might happen

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less than a month from now out in the

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Nevada desert we have multiple angles to

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cover because this is not a simple

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matter and not a simple plan is tricky

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and may be risky primarily because no

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one could say for sure what is about to

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happen or how many people are gonna show

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up it's hard to even get a good guess so

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tonight we'll take a deep dive into this

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subject we will hear from the young man

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whose Facebook page launched a million

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memes jokes cartoons videos serious news

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articles and what's the view of locals

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about the main events planned for

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September 20th and 21st a longtime

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devout a businessman and political

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strategist George Harris will join us to

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tell about his plans for his portion of

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this event he calls it storm area 51

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base camp and has a robust two-day event

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planned then filmmaker Jeremy Korbel

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will join us to talk about his role in

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helping to shape the narrative that's

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unfolding as we speak how a much broader

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audience might be able to help even if

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they can't make it to the event

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themselves and in person so yes we can

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allow the ground to cover tonight we go

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exploring into the deep dark secrets of

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area 51 how to shine some light on

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secrets that perhaps don't need to be

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kept a few months ago a Facebook page

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appeared cut out of the blue and it

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caught fire page was created by a young

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man named Maddy Roberts who lives in

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he'd just seen an interview that

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included involved a man named Bob Lazar

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talking about a secret facility in the

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Nevada desert south of a base known as

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area 51 the interview was by podcast

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Joe Rogan and it included filmmaker

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Jeremy Korbel discussing his film about

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lazara the whole area 51 lore that's

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grown over the past 30 years and it's a

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story that's been around a long time I

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know that you know that but it's taken

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on a new life and Matti saw this

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interview with Rogan and Lazar and

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Korbel and had an idea a joke really hey

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why don't we all storm Mary 51 you know

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they can't stop all of us let's see them

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aliens that's kind of how it went funny

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stuff but somehow it struck a nerve

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it exploded and within a matter of days

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millions of people not only saw this

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page but said they planned to

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participate in an event out there

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September 20th storm Mary 51 was born

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here's a clip from an interview Maddy

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did when he first went public and

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revealed his identity talking about why

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he was inspired to do something in the

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back of my mind after watching the Joe

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Rogan podcast with you and and then

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clicked I was like man I have an idea

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for the page real reason I made this was

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as a joke and it just completely took

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off after like three days there's the

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need for knowledge that I feel like

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there's a lot of knowledge that's being

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withheld and I think that's why the

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event really took off the people have

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really made this into what it is it

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struck a nerve with everybody it's the

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pinnacle of the mean so it started as a

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joke he's not serious about storming ari

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51 most people got that but some didn't

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and soon enough the Facebook page kind

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of took on a life of its own it's

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inspired other jokes and videos and

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cartoons and celebrity endorsements as

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well as serious news stories about

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whether or not this is real what started

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it story a bob lazar told all over again

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articles about the legacy of area 51 not

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long afterward Maddy came forward and

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revealed his name and then he was

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visited by a couple of FBI agents and

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the word went out loud and clear the

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stormy storming area 51 is a bad idea

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bad on many levels so please don't do it

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it would accomplish nothing but the seed

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has been planted so several ideas have

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been born

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puzzles four major events out there in

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the desert in Lincoln County in Knight

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County a couple here in in Clark County

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pitches for events and gatherings of one

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kind or another with different names and

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some of those most of those have died or

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fallen by the wayside but others are

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moving forward they're still forming

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you know George Harris is primarily

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known as a businessman and entrepreneur

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here in Las Vegas but you know he's uh

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he's a lifelong has a lifelong interest

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in aliens and ETS and government secrecy

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he refers to himself as he of follow

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gist he created a business around all

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his interests it's called alien tequila

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the bottles if you've ever seen them are

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shaped like an e t--'s head he also

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founded the alien research center which

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is built right at the start of the e t

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highway that's the road that leads to

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area 51 his property will host one of

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the events that's planned for September

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20th 21st at George it's great to have

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you on the program George thank you so

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much for inviting me it's uh it's gonna

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be nice to give people information that

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they can use and understand and really

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hopefully understand that we want them

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to be safe first before anything if

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people have ever driven on the et

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Highway you know right the beginning of

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the highway there's a turn off to a

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place called heiko which is a tiny

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little community I don't know if there's

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a hundred people out there and and

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there's this silver building a curve a

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curve building and a 50-foot tall alien

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robot that looks kind of like Gort from

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the Day the Earth Stood Still so when

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was that built and and what inspired you

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to take that leap because no there's not

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a whole lot out there in Lincoln County

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well there's nothing out there but when

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I decided that I was going to be serious

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about this for the rest of my life and

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provide an area where people can come

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and do their own research we have a tiny

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little Museum and and a gift shop it's a

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pretty pretty large gift shop and it

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helps pay a lot of these bills for my

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hobby because this is a hobby and how is

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it doing now since this Facebook page

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and the store Mary 51 idea popped up

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how long did like for you to notice her

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I can tell you that everybody wants to

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give full credit to this meme

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but honestly George our business started

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increasing when Jeremy Korbel came out

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with the documentary on Bob Lazar we'll

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get into that

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sticking with after this Facebook page

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takes off how quickly did it come to

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your attention and what was your first

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thought when you heard it so it was

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pretty much immediately people people

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would call and they to ask and then you

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know then you started hearing chatter

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that there's going to be 5,000 people

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show up out here on the 20th and then it

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went from 5,000 to 10,000 men and now

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the latest number that's consistent

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number that you've heard over the last

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month and a half it's 30,000 people and

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are they going to come I think that

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you're going to be amazed and that

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number is going to come on the 21st and

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22nd of September you know we started

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talking to the sheriff

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I said look these people are coming

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anyways you know let's try to put

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something together that's going to be

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faced and well thought out so you can

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manage people and move them from point A

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and point B because I do think if 30,000

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people showed up at one time you know

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this is a rural area Nevada

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there's no services there's nothing it

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would be a problem so we decided to take

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that and we created storm area 51 base

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camp experience which is a two-day event

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taking place at the alien Research

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Center let's talk for a moment about the

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the challenges of putting on a large

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event out in Lincoln County yeah you

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know it's it's one of my favorite places

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in the world it's a beautiful area rural

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but there are limited services it's

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sparsely populated so when you're

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talking about you know two million

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people sign up and say they're coming

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which of course no one believed that

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would ever get that big but even 5,000

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people would be a major challenge for

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the businesses for emergency services

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police can you describe the challenges

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that you have faced in anticipating a

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big crowd well when

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we first started this the I immediately

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called sheriff caringly and said sheriff

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this thing's getting bigger and bigger

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and it's going to get bigger and bigger

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and no matter if we do nothing at all

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people are still going to show up so if

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we know people are still going to show

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up why don't we take the bull by the

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horns and start discussing the

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number-one issue which is safety which

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is you're in rural Nevada cuz you know

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people get great ideas and it's a great

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day trip and they come out and you know

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and some people think they're going to

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storm area 51 at 3 o'clock in the

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morning well you know when I talk to

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those people I try to explain to them if

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you're on the desert floor at 3 o'clock

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in the morning you're not going to have

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to worry about the sheriff getting you

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or the military getting in it you're

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going to have to worry about getting bit

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by a rattlesnake that's how that's why

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we had continually talked about safety

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every other word so we decided to put

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this experience together the storm area

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51 base campus which is what we're doing

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is going to be an experience it's a

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two-day event that's going to take place

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at the alien Research Center starting on

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Friday September 20th and Saturday the

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21st the base camp experience will

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feature an exclusive screening and

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appearance by the cast of the Netflix

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hit Bob Lazar area 51 and flying saucers

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we're also going to include appearances

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by expert speakers we're going to have

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live music film screenings food trucks

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art installations costume contests photo

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opportunities and many more and so

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George that's how this grew out and and

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it grew out of necessity because no

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matter what you're going to have a large

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amount of people coming out to rural

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Nevada and we just want to make the

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experience one something that's going to

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be exciting for them and to something

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that will be safe there was another

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event for Nye County that was called

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peace stock which was going to be a

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music festival and the County

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Commissioners

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turn that down and then in Lincoln

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County there were two events under

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discussion that needed permits an event

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in Reichle which we'll talk about a

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little bit later and then your event and

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the commissioners at least provisionally

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have said yes but they had doubts right

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I mean just in terms of law enforcement

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coverage emergency services you got

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challenges what cell phone service roads

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they got there's there's there's a lot

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of legit I'll go over the logistics with

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you for a bit because it's it's it's

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massive you know I'm lucky enough that

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I'm you know and I'm not I'm a business

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guy and I understand the way to success

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is to have a great team behind you so

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when this all came up I went and I

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called a good friend of mine Emily

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Wofford who has got years and years

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experience in doing these type events

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and then the other person is Keith right

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which he's the guy you want because he

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did Britney Spears in the desert with no

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services nothing no gasoline no I mean

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he had to go out there and build

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everything out so that's my team that's

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the core team with a bunch of other

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great people that they have so they took

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this mission on and you know we believe

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we're going to be very successful

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look my event or our event because I I

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want you you're part of it Jeremy's part

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of it everybody's going to be up there

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it's gonna be for believers and then the

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uninitiated people to come out and learn

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more about this growing movement and to

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call for greater transparency around

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what many believe it's been decades of

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government secrecy surrounding UFO

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technology the challenges that were of

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concern to the Lincoln County

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Commissioners who decided to give you a

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permit to go forward with this were

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obvious they're no gas stations out

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there there's no hotel rooms there's

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like you know ten hotel rooms and Rachel

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they're booked there's maybe a hundred

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in the whole county and you know people

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that come out there have to be ready to

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take care of themselves I mean you're

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gonna provide some services

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porta-potties food water but other than

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that I mean

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people are kind of on their own we tell

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people look our event the tickets are

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going to be fifty one dollars per day

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that's going to help pay for all the

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infrastructure okay

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why fifty one dollars because area 51

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we're going to have camp sites for tents

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and we're going to have RV spaces the

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base camp pass includes parking two

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bottles of water a ten dollar food truck

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vouchers and a commemorative lanyard you

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know we're paying for the you know for

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the infrastructure cost George there's

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no there's not going to be cell service

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when five when 300 people show up cell

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service is going to collapse so now I

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have to rent a satellite because there's

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no infrastructure for this can you say

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will you spend already just get this

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thing going I think we're a little over

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forty five thousand bucks and and right

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now we're self funding we will we we do

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have people that want to be sponsors we

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want to we want everybody to understand

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that we think that this festival can go

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on every year and it would be a good

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thing for people to come and talk about

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ufology and talk about parallel

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activities or remote whatever they want

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to discuss we want to provide an

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atmosphere where someone can physically

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come out and go hey look at this I mean

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the government's got the most top secret

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base on the planet is in the state in

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the back and no one ever talks about

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this George but who are the people that

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announce that area 51 really existed the

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Central Intelligence Agency the CIA they

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announced it in the New York Times a

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couple of years ago so that even makes

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all these questions you know bigger and

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bigger I'm with you on that I you know

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I'm not opposed to I wouldn't be opposed

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to just something just for a party out

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there if you can pull it off and if it

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also is a learning experience that's

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pretty cool too it's kind of like the

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Roswell Festival in a sense if it could

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grow into something like that and and

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the state of Nevada has sort of embraced

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this when it created the et Highway was

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meant to do it to increase tourism out

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there to take advantage of the law

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legends of area 51 so this certainly

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fits with that this has turned into a

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cultural movement and what we're trying

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to do is provide the area and and the

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time and the space for these folks have

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fun we're going to have music we're

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gonna have band we're gonna have all

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that but I wanted to make it to have

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really great speakers you know Jeremy's

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coming out she's gonna he's going to do

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his film he's kidding me speakers that

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really you know people can come out and

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discuss stuff and ask questions and and

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make decisions on their own well let's

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bring Jeremy on and and talk about the

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bigger picture of how to make a positive

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impact Jeremy Korbel is an investigative

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filmmaker an artist and martial artist a

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friend of mine I should point out I've

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been featured in two of his films I'm

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listed in the credits they're his films

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not mine but he did interview me for

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them and Jeremy good to have you back on

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the show hey George and George how're

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you doing this is amazing it's a

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cultural movement it's like the twilight

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zone in the best world and clockwork

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orange' so give us the 50,000 foot view

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of how to make this into something more

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than a party if it's just a party in a

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celebration and people get together and

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are safe that's that's good by itself

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but it could you're hoping that it's

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something more and you've been talking

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to George about how to do that it is

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something more it's important to point

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out the power of a meme a meme is a new

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thing it's not born out of thin air it

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can only thrive when there's some deep

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undercurrent and culture surrounding a

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timely thought and that's exactly what

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we're seeing that the storm area 51 has

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become a powerful cultural movement

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there is no denying that whether you

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like it or not and it's born out of

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frustration and and and it's an

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important point that it's mobilizing

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people of all ages it's being driven by

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a digitally savvy youth in America and

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around the world this is unprecedented

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you are now seeing something occurring

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that couldn't happen 30 years ago and

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Bob Lazar came out with his story

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because we're living in a different

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digital

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world-so 30,000 foot view you're seeing

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the will and the desire of the youth and

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the people on this planet to shine a

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light on your foe secrecy to reveal UFO

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transparency this is a true cultural and

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social movement it's cool to have you

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know Maddie

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when he started this you were talking to

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him right off the bat before the world

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knew who he was and I remember you

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called me and had discussed it and and

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the initial concern was how to get this

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under control make sure people don't try

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to storm every 51 because I think Jeremy

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you and George would both agree that is

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a really bad idea yeah yeah it started

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off as a joke I mean you know just to be

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very specific I mean you heard you know

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the kid talk about it you know he's

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watching a jogging clip and he sees Bob

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and he sees me on Joe Rogan's you know

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the powerful Joe Rogan I I

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underestimated that you know around the

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world the bell tolled and this kid was

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them you know inspired to put a Facebook

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event up and and again that's a me point

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if people aren't fascinated by this show

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me them aliens people are fascinated and

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all of this was inspired you know

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because of just the simple retelling of

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the bob lazar story in a Netflix

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documentary I mean it's it's absolutely

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surreal and it has caught fire and it's

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very real in the fact that people are

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coming so I think someone like George

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Harris is doing the right thing in a

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community that wants it by providing

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safety by providing security we all know

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the threats we all know what can go

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wrong but seeing what he's doing that's

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why I'm advocating I'm not organizing

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anything but I'm advocating for safety

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and sanity and look man this could be a

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national holiday this could be a time

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every year where people gather to

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communicate and show their desire it's

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it's a really unprecedented time in

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human history a once in a generation

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opportunity to be part of a true

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cultural movement let me ask you this

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George are you concerned that something

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gets out of hand and that law

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enforcement just shuts it down I mean

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you're talking to the sheriff

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almost daily you know what the concerns

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are not only the sheriff but the

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military and I just wonder how what

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you're hearing back from them

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well here's you know the sheriff and all

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the nine county sheriffs and the Highway

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Patrol and and believe it or not

543
00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:36,409
law enforcement agencies from other

544
00:22:41,169 --> 00:22:38,809
counties you know they're meeting they

545
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:41,179
have their emergency response team I'm

546
00:22:47,349 --> 00:22:42,830
you know one of the requirements is that

547
00:22:50,709 --> 00:22:47,359
I have ten armed security of ten armed

548
00:22:54,729 --> 00:22:50,719
security staff that that has experienced

549
00:22:57,159 --> 00:22:54,739
a lot of my guys are cops with retired

550
00:22:58,869 --> 00:22:57,169
military they know what they're doing so

551
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,879
you know when you come to our place

552
00:23:02,409 --> 00:23:00,799
you're going to come up you're going to

553
00:23:03,549 --> 00:23:02,419
park you're going to walk up you're

554
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:03,559
going to go through you're going to be

555
00:23:08,829 --> 00:23:07,369
wanded and then you're going to be

556
00:23:10,659 --> 00:23:08,839
giving your lanyard and your thing and

557
00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:10,669
you're going to walk in and you're going

558
00:23:16,329 --> 00:23:12,950
to have an enjoyable experience and the

559
00:23:18,849 --> 00:23:16,339
entire family is is invited and then

560
00:23:21,819 --> 00:23:18,859
after we screen the movie we're going to

561
00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:21,829
have a couple of a couple of big

562
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:24,529
telescopes they'll go on the screen and

563
00:23:32,049 --> 00:23:28,129
you know you'll have you'll be able to

564
00:23:34,269 --> 00:23:32,059
see probably the best star viewing you

565
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,279
know this little area where we're at in

566
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:36,799
area 51 is considered one of the top ten

567
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:39,289
places to look at the Stars

568
00:23:45,879 --> 00:23:42,129
so we want to make this an experience

569
00:23:48,999 --> 00:23:45,889
for everyone and a place for everyone to

570
00:23:51,009 --> 00:23:49,009
get together and talk and and to give

571
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:51,019
people things to do without them

572
00:23:58,089 --> 00:23:53,809
storming the base you will be able to

573
00:24:00,909 --> 00:23:58,099
storm area 51 because we are going to

574
00:24:03,399 --> 00:24:00,919
duplicate the back gate of area 51 on

575
00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:03,409
the alien research property you'll be

576
00:24:06,430 --> 00:24:05,089
able to run through the gate you'll be

577
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:06,440
able to take all the pictures you want

578
00:24:12,969 --> 00:24:10,190
and camo dudes we're gonna have camo

579
00:24:16,209 --> 00:24:12,979
dudes right the white truck up there and

580
00:24:19,569 --> 00:24:16,219
we're doing this because it's not gonna

581
00:24:20,979 --> 00:24:19,579
be a smart idea to try to go up in and

582
00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:20,989
storm the base first of all you won't

583
00:24:25,209 --> 00:24:23,539
you won't get on the base I appreciate

584
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:25,219
you coming on good luck with your event

585
00:24:28,659 --> 00:24:27,289
I think it's probably safe to say that

586
00:24:30,250 --> 00:24:28,669
there will be quite a bit of news

587
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:30,260
coverage including Kayla

588
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:32,690
TV so thanks for joining us and Jeremy

589
00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:34,490
Korbel with more of our conversation

590
00:24:39,460 --> 00:24:36,260
about the big picture look at at what

591
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,470
this movement might become I'm not sure

592
00:24:43,450 --> 00:24:41,120
we can call what's happening right now a

593
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:43,460
revolution not just yet anyway but

594
00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:45,710
something is happening you can feel it I

595
00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:48,590
mean the ball is in play it it feels

596
00:24:53,410 --> 00:24:51,230
like a movement is underway and it's

597
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:53,420
been that way soar I don't know

598
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:55,490
19 months or so since that New York

599
00:25:01,000 --> 00:24:58,400
Times story December 2017 talking about

600
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:01,010
the secret Pentagon UFO program and

601
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:02,810
since then we've seen the u.s. Navy

602
00:25:06,670 --> 00:25:04,310
announced that it's changing its

603
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,680
guidelines to make it easier for its

604
00:25:11,290 --> 00:25:08,960
pilots to report encounters with unknown

605
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:11,300
objects doesn't mean we're talking about

606
00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:13,510
alien spacecraft it just unknowns

607
00:25:19,170 --> 00:25:16,640
unidentifieds since then we've had all

608
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:19,180
kinds of TV coverage news coverage

609
00:25:25,450 --> 00:25:22,610
television programs documentaries and

610
00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:25,460
films and hearings for congressional

611
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:28,670
members closed-door briefings by pilots

612
00:25:32,740 --> 00:25:30,080
who've seen these things I mean a lot of

613
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:32,750
stuff is in play and now we see this

614
00:25:38,980 --> 00:25:36,770
event this movement about area 51 with

615
00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:38,990
George Harris who has talked about his

616
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:43,460
area 51 storm base camp event and as

617
00:25:46,660 --> 00:25:45,170
there's another event planned for the

618
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:46,670
town of Rachel also in Lincoln County

619
00:25:52,450 --> 00:25:49,760
and yet you have to wonder is there a

620
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:52,460
way to funnel all of this energy to make

621
00:25:57,310 --> 00:25:55,190
sure that the momentum continues Jeremy

622
00:25:59,170 --> 00:25:57,320
Korbel let's talk big-picture stuff and

623
00:26:02,110 --> 00:25:59,180
you and I have had this conversation in

624
00:26:06,090 --> 00:26:02,120
private and we've discussed it in public

625
00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:06,100
as well you're dealing with UFOs ufology

626
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:08,420
ufologists that whole world and it's

627
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:11,690
like herding cats except it's harder you

628
00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:12,770
know for 70 years

629
00:26:16,210 --> 00:26:14,510
you follow just people who follow this

630
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:16,220
topic I've been griping and complaining

631
00:26:22,750 --> 00:26:20,690
and and and demanding this and demanding

632
00:26:23,860 --> 00:26:22,760
that you know the secret government's

633
00:26:25,150 --> 00:26:23,870
been studying this stuff

634
00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:25,160
admit it you know you've been hiding

635
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:27,260
evidence for all these years you've been

636
00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:28,910
studying UFOs you'll want to know about

637
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:30,470
the technology you're trying to figure

638
00:26:33,850 --> 00:26:31,970
this stuff out you've probably got

639
00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:33,860
videos and films that you're not sharing

640
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:35,900
with us we demand to know what's going

641
00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:37,670
on on and on and on and then the

642
00:26:42,790 --> 00:26:40,580
government finally December 2017 there's

643
00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:42,800
a little crack in the dam and

644
00:26:45,970 --> 00:26:44,179
information start see

645
00:26:48,220 --> 00:26:45,980
being out and the government in a way

646
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:48,230
admits yeah you're right we have been

647
00:26:51,369 --> 00:26:49,730
lying we have been studying this stuff

648
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:51,379
in secret here's a little bit of what

649
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:53,090
we've been doing and you follow just

650
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:54,830
react as if you just shot their

651
00:27:01,239 --> 00:26:57,919
grandmother and it's just it's hilarious

652
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:01,249
in a sense and tragic in another so you

653
00:27:04,659 --> 00:27:02,570
know there's a lot to be frustrated

654
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,669
about so is that part of what's going on

655
00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:07,279
here yeah it's a big part of what's

656
00:27:12,249 --> 00:27:09,350
going on here but also we're dealing

657
00:27:15,460 --> 00:27:12,259
with a completely different reality now

658
00:27:17,049 --> 00:27:15,470
we're having people born into reality

659
00:27:19,419 --> 00:27:17,059
you know where we're asking the same

660
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:19,429
question are we alone in the universe

661
00:27:24,669 --> 00:27:22,490
this this has remained one of the

662
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:24,679
greatest questions ever asked by

663
00:27:30,909 --> 00:27:28,399
humanity when humans began looking up at

664
00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:30,919
the cosmos but but we're asking it now

665
00:27:35,739 --> 00:27:33,740
in a world a different world than the

666
00:27:38,889 --> 00:27:35,749
philosophers of past these are

667
00:27:41,259 --> 00:27:38,899
scientists and anyhow even mystics now

668
00:27:44,350 --> 00:27:41,269
are looking at it differently because we

669
00:27:47,109 --> 00:27:44,360
know more we have learned more if you

670
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:47,119
don't get that message if you don't

671
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:49,970
understand that you're living in a new

672
00:27:55,539 --> 00:27:53,210
age in a new world you have not been

673
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:55,549
paying attention simple as that

674
00:27:59,980 --> 00:27:57,440
yeah it's an exciting time George I mean

675
00:28:02,560 --> 00:27:59,990
I think there's a there's a new era I

676
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:02,570
think there's there's new people that

677
00:28:07,869 --> 00:28:05,330
are coming into this fascination from a

678
00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:07,879
different vantage than any of us before

679
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:10,190
and I think that that's what we're

680
00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:10,730
seeing

681
00:28:16,989 --> 00:28:15,289
so it's a delicate time you want you

682
00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:16,999
hope that these young people or at least

683
00:28:20,019 --> 00:28:18,619
and none of them were young people

684
00:28:22,659 --> 00:28:20,029
there's a lot of people who haven't

685
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:22,669
really paid attention to the topic who

686
00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:24,710
are now drawn to it and aren't taking a

687
00:28:28,749 --> 00:28:26,990
look at it and you got a hope that the

688
00:28:30,220 --> 00:28:28,759
experience will be positive that they'll

689
00:28:32,169 --> 00:28:30,230
stick with it that they'll dig deep

690
00:28:35,769 --> 00:28:32,179
because it's it's not something you can

691
00:28:37,299 --> 00:28:35,779
learn overnight it is challenging to

692
00:28:41,409 --> 00:28:37,309
separate wheat from chaff

693
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:41,419
so it's hopeful that this area 51 storm

694
00:28:46,269 --> 00:28:44,210
event whatever you want to call it will

695
00:28:49,690 --> 00:28:46,279
can be a positive experience but that is

696
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:49,700
challenging to channel it into positive

697
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:53,090
ways right yeah that was the first thing

698
00:28:57,340 --> 00:28:55,070
that crossed my mind it was like there

699
00:28:57,659 --> 00:28:57,350
was so much press about lazar which is

700
00:28:59,399 --> 00:28:57,669
why

701
00:29:02,909 --> 00:28:59,409
because you know let's just take it back

702
00:29:06,029 --> 00:29:02,919
to that this is so simple bob lazar

703
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:06,039
simply told his story again 30 years

704
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:09,369
later and yes after 30 years you know we

705
00:29:13,619 --> 00:29:11,289
were able to go back and look at the

706
00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:13,629
things that Lazar had said and were able

707
00:29:17,399 --> 00:29:15,820
to you know prove things that weren't

708
00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:17,409
available 30 years ago just through the

709
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:20,409
lens of time but but more importantly

710
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:24,369
and and more obviously he's telling you

711
00:29:29,459 --> 00:29:28,089
the same story but now now we're living

712
00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:29,469
in a different age so information

713
00:29:35,369 --> 00:29:31,929
spreads completely differently

714
00:29:37,349 --> 00:29:35,379
fact-checking completely different so

715
00:29:39,719 --> 00:29:37,359
now we're looking at a time where we

716
00:29:42,269 --> 00:29:39,729
have this potential energy and all these

717
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:42,279
people are coming in it add a new and we

718
00:29:47,399 --> 00:29:44,529
should harness this we should take this

719
00:29:48,839 --> 00:29:47,409
potential energy and educate and direct

720
00:29:52,019 --> 00:29:48,849
and yeah there was my first thought man

721
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:52,029
I was really concerned that people would

722
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,369
miss the point but guess what it's not

723
00:29:59,489 --> 00:29:57,039
happening people are getting it and it's

724
00:30:00,989 --> 00:29:59,499
through media and social media the

725
00:30:04,889 --> 00:30:00,999
people are starting to ask the right

726
00:30:06,659 --> 00:30:04,899
questions I'm very optimistic it was a

727
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:06,669
scary there in the beginning how quickly

728
00:30:10,889 --> 00:30:08,799
this thing spread at to your point how

729
00:30:12,749 --> 00:30:10,899
quickly it spread all around the world

730
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:12,759
and and suddenly you have to be millions

731
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:13,989
of people saying yeah we're coming

732
00:30:17,819 --> 00:30:15,849
obviously millions of people are not

733
00:30:19,739 --> 00:30:17,829
coming but millions of people were

734
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:19,749
expressing their interest in the subject

735
00:30:23,399 --> 00:30:21,129
and hopefully a lot of them will stick

736
00:30:25,979 --> 00:30:23,409
with it but even if it's a few thousand

737
00:30:27,719 --> 00:30:25,989
I mean that itself that it show up out

738
00:30:29,729 --> 00:30:27,729
there in the desert you'd want to be

739
00:30:32,249 --> 00:30:29,739
able to give them something to do to

740
00:30:34,829 --> 00:30:32,259
make it a lasting impression I mean a

741
00:30:37,859 --> 00:30:34,839
party is fine just for its own sake but

742
00:30:39,810 --> 00:30:37,869
this is an opportunity that hopefully

743
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:39,820
somebody can take advantage oh yeah you

744
00:30:43,949 --> 00:30:42,849
can have a party anywhere anytime but

745
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:43,959
just look at it this way I heard

746
00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:45,369
somebody on the news I think it was one

747
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:48,190
of the council people who's saying it's

748
00:30:55,589 --> 00:30:52,450
1/10 of 1% of those who have publicly

749
00:30:57,719 --> 00:30:55,599
expressed you know the opinion that

750
00:31:00,209 --> 00:30:57,729
they're interested in coming to this out

751
00:31:03,419 --> 00:31:00,219
of 3 million people that's 3,000 people

752
00:31:05,639 --> 00:31:03,429
and that doubles the population I mean

753
00:31:06,959 --> 00:31:05,649
it's it's wild so yeah there's a lot of

754
00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:06,969
pitfalls and we should talk about that

755
00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:09,700
this is the desert everything in the

756
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:11,020
desert has

757
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:13,990
there's even more going on that people

758
00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:16,630
should be aware of but essentially if

759
00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:19,030
everybody comes with the with the right

760
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:21,580
intent of learning and becoming educated

761
00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:23,770
and having a good time in a responsible

762
00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:27,400
way this is a moment everybody wins this

763
00:31:31,650 --> 00:31:29,140
is a moment that everybody wins in the

764
00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:31,660
local community the public relations you

765
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:34,020
know you know to the military base to

766
00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:39,970
UFO secrecy to everybody we all win if

767
00:31:45,180 --> 00:31:42,580
this goes down well and for it to go

768
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:45,190
down well it just needs to be organized

769
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,470
and I do want to say something I know it

770
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:49,600
might be a little controversial but look

771
00:31:52,890 --> 00:31:51,370
it was interesting to me I'm just going

772
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:52,900
to be straight up with you it was

773
00:31:58,350 --> 00:31:56,200
interesting to me that two permits were

774
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,360
put out and then there was this

775
00:32:04,169 --> 00:32:01,120
turnaround and it was however this is a

776
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:04,179
state of emergency so clearly on one

777
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:06,850
side everybody wants this but on the

778
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:09,760
other side everybody's terrified I will

779
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:12,010
say I was really sitting back to see who

780
00:32:16,290 --> 00:32:13,900
I should advocate for where I should

781
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:16,300
advocate for because I don't know who's

782
00:32:21,150 --> 00:32:17,770
going to have a safe environment I'm not

783
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:21,160
organizing it I'm trying to guide you

784
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:22,809
know speakers and people and this sort

785
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:25,120
of thing well one of the two permits was

786
00:32:29,370 --> 00:32:27,790
conditional the other one wasn't so the

787
00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:29,380
gentleman you just had on George Harris

788
00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:31,660
it was non-conditional he proved he had

789
00:32:35,610 --> 00:32:33,550
security he proved he had medical he

790
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:35,620
proved everything he needed the one in

791
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:38,230
Rachel yeah I'm worried about you know

792
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:41,470
it's a conditional permit it's not

793
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:44,470
authorized yet I know the first time I

794
00:32:49,049 --> 00:32:46,330
interviewed George Harris about his

795
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:49,059
plans he had said you know that he was

796
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:52,090
actually hoping for all the events that

797
00:32:56,910 --> 00:32:53,890
there be multiple events sort of like a

798
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:56,920
big motorcycle event that happens every

799
00:32:59,370 --> 00:32:57,250
year

800
00:33:01,260 --> 00:32:59,380
Sturgis that there is multiple

801
00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:01,270
independent events that it would all be

802
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:04,030
mutually supportive in a sense and I

803
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:05,740
think that he is hoping that the event

804
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:08,440
in Reichle centered around the little

805
00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:11,290
alien is a success as well I don't know

806
00:33:14,820 --> 00:33:13,120
that they're as far along as he is in

807
00:33:17,490 --> 00:33:14,830
the planning but we you know I've known

808
00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:17,500
those people a long time and and I sure

809
00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:20,740
hope that that they are moving forward

810
00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:22,300
with their own plans at this point

811
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:23,860
nobody knows how many people are going

812
00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:24,610
to show up and

813
00:33:27,899 --> 00:33:25,750
was what the Lincoln County

814
00:33:30,269 --> 00:33:27,909
commissioners that you referred to were

815
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:30,279
worried about and yes they did issue an

816
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:31,870
emergency declaration the County

817
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Commission Lincoln County voted on an

818
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:36,610
emergency declaration and what that

819
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:38,409
means is it basically they're asking for

820
00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:39,850
help from the state of Nevada and

821
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:41,860
they're gonna get it the state of Nevada

822
00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:43,990
has officials that were assigned to to

823
00:33:48,210 --> 00:33:45,580
help coordinate this thing to bring

824
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:48,220
emergency personnel in Clark County

825
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:50,110
Sheriff Joe Lombardo has said he's gonna

826
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:52,630
send officers so a lot of different

827
00:33:56,450 --> 00:33:54,880
government entities are gonna have

828
00:33:59,759 --> 00:33:56,460
people on the ground there to make sure

829
00:34:02,310 --> 00:33:59,769
that everything goes smoothly

830
00:34:04,049 --> 00:34:02,320
but again nobody knows exactly how many

831
00:34:06,419 --> 00:34:04,059
people are gonna show up or what's going

832
00:34:08,909 --> 00:34:06,429
to happen yeah and and George Harris has

833
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:08,919
it right from the beginning we all hope

834
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:11,649
that everything goes over smoothly but I

835
00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:13,690
really couldn't get behind it even say

836
00:34:16,829 --> 00:34:14,710
was going to show up or show my film

837
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:16,839
until I knew but you know what really

838
00:34:23,129 --> 00:34:20,530
told me this is this can happen and it

839
00:34:25,530 --> 00:34:23,139
can have a powerful social impact is

840
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:25,540
that you know the law the local law

841
00:34:29,970 --> 00:34:27,970
enforcement and other agencies are

842
00:34:32,339 --> 00:34:29,980
establishing a command center on the

843
00:34:34,050 --> 00:34:32,349
hill up by what George is calling base

844
00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:34,060
camp and I thought that was such a

845
00:34:39,329 --> 00:34:36,460
perfect term when you're climbing Mount

846
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:39,339
Everest in order to acclimate to the

847
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:41,530
environment you go to base camp and from

848
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:43,899
there you can continue venturing out so

849
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:46,210
I am comfortable telling people by the

850
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,810
way that it's going go to base camp use

851
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:51,520
that as your location cuz we don't know

852
00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:52,810
what's gonna happen we don't know if the

853
00:34:56,339 --> 00:34:54,220
other permit is going to be you know

854
00:34:58,710 --> 00:34:56,349
finalized and we don't know if

855
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,720
everybody's gonna be safe so I know they

856
00:35:03,089 --> 00:35:00,880
arm one tank of gas you can get a hotel

857
00:35:05,099 --> 00:35:03,099
in Las Vegas and you can drive out to

858
00:35:06,780 --> 00:35:05,109
base camp and you can see the speaker's

859
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:06,790
who I am definitely curating I'm

860
00:35:10,290 --> 00:35:08,890
curating those speakers and I'm trying

861
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:10,300
does that mean what it what do you mean

862
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:12,820
you're curating speakers basically the

863
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,890
the facility so George asked me said hey

864
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:16,480
do you have people that people really

865
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:18,310
want to hear from he's into this stuff

866
00:35:22,740 --> 00:35:19,890
he wants people to become educated

867
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:22,750
absolutely I'll provide my film you can

868
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:25,570
screen my film exclusively I will pull

869
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:28,089
in people that I know that have a strong

870
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:30,490
voice maybe not the voices you've heard

871
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,310
from but the voices you should hear from

872
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,160
as well as some you'll recognize and

873
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:38,320
everybody's going to provide know

874
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:41,710
of information it will be fun it will be

875
00:35:45,870 --> 00:35:43,570
an exciting environment but everybody

876
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:45,880
there will learn the history of what's

877
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:48,490
been going on and what the potential is

878
00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:52,030
for us now which is brand new as we know

879
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:53,350
there are closed or congressional

880
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,040
briefings and I want those open I there

881
00:36:01,560 --> 00:35:58,480
will be some things that are actionable

882
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:01,570
that we can do but mainly provide a safe

883
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:03,610
environment if the locals are doing that

884
00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:06,850
and they can all pull it off and we can

885
00:36:10,140 --> 00:36:08,470
go to Basecamp and kind of start there

886
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:10,150
then this is going to be a real

887
00:36:14,820 --> 00:36:12,610
opportunity a springboard for UFO

888
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:14,830
transparency I believe that with all of

889
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:18,850
my heart in fact I know that um can you

890
00:36:22,650 --> 00:36:20,590
share any of the names of the speakers

891
00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:22,660
or is it too early to do that you know

892
00:36:26,580 --> 00:36:24,760
actually I have a lot of speakers they

893
00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:26,590
would like to talk at this but I

894
00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:29,320
actually have chosen a few people just

895
00:36:34,020 --> 00:36:31,270
to put out you know today I mean so

896
00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:34,030
obviously it's cast members as well I

897
00:36:38,070 --> 00:36:36,340
mean again if you come back to the root

898
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:38,080
of this this is Bob Lazar

899
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:40,690
so my film on Netflix it's like it got a

900
00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:42,910
lot of people talking Joe wrote him you

901
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:45,160
know the powerful Joe Rogan amplified

902
00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:47,110
that you know there's a bunch of new

903
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:48,520
celebrities talking about it which

904
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:50,560
always drives traffic and information

905
00:36:55,290 --> 00:36:52,450
but I do have some speakers I know for

906
00:36:58,410 --> 00:36:55,300
example Ken Lane of desert Oracle

907
00:37:00,960 --> 00:36:58,420
magazine and desert Oracle podcast he

908
00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:00,970
will be the emcee for the entire night

909
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:02,830
he's they call him the voice of the

910
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:04,270
desert this guy's amazing

911
00:37:10,830 --> 00:37:05,920
and then I don't know if you know of a

912
00:37:12,810 --> 00:37:10,840
Jane Kyle UFO Jane out of Texas she is a

913
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:12,820
speaker that I think has a very powerful

914
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:15,520
powerful voice and I haven't heard

915
00:37:19,860 --> 00:37:17,890
enough from her so she's speaking and

916
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:19,870
I'm excited about that and then we have

917
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,000
Alejandro Rojas because he puts on

918
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:23,920
events but a lot of times he doesn't get

919
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:26,410
to talk and I think he has a good global

920
00:37:32,430 --> 00:37:29,770
view of what's going on and there are

921
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:32,440
other speakers speakers that I think

922
00:37:36,540 --> 00:37:34,030
everybody's gonna be very excited about

923
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:36,550
but I need to make sure the environment

924
00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:39,190
is what it appears before I announced

925
00:37:44,670 --> 00:37:41,380
those but people will be very interested

926
00:37:47,490 --> 00:37:44,680
to hear these people talk people you

927
00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:47,500
might not expect or you hope for you

928
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:49,960
know we've we've talked about I referred

929
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:52,330
to herding cats with ufologist you get

930
00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:54,550
it comes in waves people are interested

931
00:37:59,940 --> 00:37:57,070
in the topic there is folks who try to

932
00:38:02,220 --> 00:37:59,950
lobby Congress there are people who go

933
00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:02,230
on social media rant and rave and post

934
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:04,390
up every day it's kind of as a look at

935
00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:06,910
me sort of a thing but then they don't

936
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:09,670
follow through I'm wondering how to get

937
00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:12,010
people to stick with it and I don't know

938
00:38:16,140 --> 00:38:14,230
the answer to that you know there are

939
00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:16,150
some things cooking and I think we'll

940
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:17,740
talk about that in a little bit I'm sure

941
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:19,690
it's very interesting I think there's a

942
00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:22,450
way to do things now with the media and

943
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:24,220
the attention that you know really

944
00:38:29,070 --> 00:38:26,380
started for me you know since I released

945
00:38:31,110 --> 00:38:29,080
my film the bombs are doing the five

946
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:31,120
sauces that was like that was a turning

947
00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:33,220
point in my life my life has completely

948
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:35,860
changed I don't have time to go on

949
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:37,780
Twitter and argue with the same 25

950
00:38:42,510 --> 00:38:39,490
people anymore it's just the

951
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:42,520
conversation has moved beyond that we

952
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:45,130
are now pop culture we are now mass

953
00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:48,880
media this topic is so powerful and

954
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:51,670
potent that it's time for us to stop

955
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:53,830
bickering amongst ourselves and see the

956
00:38:59,640 --> 00:38:56,470
bigger picture and if you cannot do that

957
00:39:02,130 --> 00:38:59,650
then you're going to miss out so you

958
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:02,140
will be there at the base camp thing

959
00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:04,960
will you have any idea if they're able

960
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:07,120
to livestream it well people around the

961
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:09,250
world be able to watch it that is one of

962
00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:10,810
the things that I suggested from the

963
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:13,000
very beginning and I believe that there

964
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:15,730
are attempts to create that situation

965
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:17,620
there's a lot of people that want to

966
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:18,730
help right now

967
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:21,280
and I think very wisely the one thing

968
00:39:27,330 --> 00:39:25,240
that George Harris and his events person

969
00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:27,340
Emily what they've done it they didn't

970
00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:29,320
jump right in front of everything they

971
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:30,550
didn't put the cart before the horse

972
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:33,220
they're putting safety and security

973
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:35,290
first so everybody has a good time

974
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:38,410
however now that they are ahead of the

975
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,630
game with that which we can see what the

976
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:43,920
permit itself now there are these big

977
00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:46,810
opportunities to engage the greater

978
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:49,660
public whether they can come or not to

979
00:39:55,410 --> 00:39:52,270
the event to what's going on because

980
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:55,420
this is a human interest this is an

981
00:40:02,010 --> 00:39:58,320
interest that transcend a UFO community

982
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:02,020
this is popular culture this is mass

983
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:05,339
media this is now here's what

984
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:07,049
worried about well a couple of things I

985
00:40:12,799 --> 00:40:10,529
worry about one is that somebody or some

986
00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:12,809
group of somebodies decide that they're

987
00:40:17,539 --> 00:40:14,670
smarter than the government they're

988
00:40:20,089 --> 00:40:17,549
gonna slip into the base become internet

989
00:40:22,009 --> 00:40:20,099
celebrities by doing so or slip over the

990
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:22,019
line maybe even get themselves arrested

991
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:23,670
and then something goes horribly wrong

992
00:40:26,959 --> 00:40:26,160
or that a lot of people try to try to do

993
00:40:30,019 --> 00:40:26,969
something like that

994
00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:30,029
it's just I can't emphasize enough how

995
00:40:36,529 --> 00:40:33,180
bad of an idea that is in light of the

996
00:40:38,359 --> 00:40:36,539
security situation around the base but

997
00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:38,369
you know that that area out there is

998
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:41,160
beautiful especially at night looking at

999
00:40:47,299 --> 00:40:45,210
the Stars hopefully nobody will be quite

1000
00:40:49,819 --> 00:40:47,309
that stupid and that there aren't in the

1001
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:49,829
accidents because it's a long way from a

1002
00:40:53,479 --> 00:40:50,940
hospital but there are a lot of

1003
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:53,489
challenges and a lot of things that

1004
00:40:57,979 --> 00:40:56,640
could go wrong but you got to kind of

1005
00:40:59,779 --> 00:40:57,989
cross your fingers because if it goes

1006
00:41:01,489 --> 00:40:59,789
right it could become not only an annual

1007
00:41:03,650 --> 00:41:01,499
event but could affect the big picture

1008
00:41:05,479 --> 00:41:03,660
well you're on this absolutely at a

1009
00:41:07,069 --> 00:41:05,489
tipping point and I'm gonna hit the nail

1010
00:41:11,089 --> 00:41:07,079
on the head although it's very

1011
00:41:12,859 --> 00:41:11,099
uncomfortable for people yes the fear of

1012
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:12,869
everybody is that there will be

1013
00:41:18,499 --> 00:41:15,569
extremist groups there will be some sort

1014
00:41:18,979 --> 00:41:18,509
of maniac and you know what I'm talking

1015
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:18,989
about

1016
00:41:26,539 --> 00:41:22,200
living in Las Vegas that is absolutely a

1017
00:41:30,499 --> 00:41:26,549
valid fear however I will say that the

1018
00:41:33,319 --> 00:41:30,509
base has a very strategic plan nobody is

1019
00:41:36,229 --> 00:41:33,329
getting even close to that base there is

1020
00:41:39,739 --> 00:41:36,239
not a possibility in heaven or earth

1021
00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:39,749
it's not happening so because of these

1022
00:41:44,509 --> 00:41:42,329
things that are in place our job as

1023
00:41:46,509 --> 00:41:44,519
citizens is to harness the potential

1024
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:46,519
energy drive people through education

1025
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:50,700
arts cinema music and really talking and

1026
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:52,920
getting people heard who need to be

1027
00:41:57,049 --> 00:41:55,049
heard and we are going to have a good

1028
00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:57,059
experience no one is going to take that

1029
00:42:03,499 --> 00:41:59,880
from us and there is so much security

1030
00:42:07,579 --> 00:42:03,509
remember area 51 the world's best known

1031
00:42:09,769 --> 00:42:07,589
secret base it has security as you have

1032
00:42:12,049 --> 00:42:09,779
uncovered in your reports well beyond

1033
00:42:15,289 --> 00:42:12,059
what people can imagine so we need to

1034
00:42:18,020 --> 00:42:15,299
let go of that idea that is not

1035
00:42:20,570 --> 00:42:18,030
beneficial to anybody

1036
00:42:23,230 --> 00:42:20,580
bring it back around to harnessing the

1037
00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:23,240
potential energy of everybody interested

1038
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:26,430
to shine a light on UFO secrecy and

1039
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:30,540
create UFO transparency really simple do

1040
00:42:35,420 --> 00:42:32,220
you get a sense of where things are in

1041
00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:35,430
DC you know we've had these discussions

1042
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:40,160
privately and publicly including

1043
00:42:44,420 --> 00:42:42,210
conversations with some of the witnesses

1044
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:44,430
who've appeared before the US Senate in

1045
00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:46,710
closed-door briefings pilots who've told

1046
00:42:52,460 --> 00:42:49,500
their stories to the Senators you know a

1047
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:52,470
lot of speculation among the naysayers

1048
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:54,450
that they're just talking about drones

1049
00:42:59,660 --> 00:42:56,910
it's classified projects it's ours

1050
00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,670
that's nothing unknown do you have any

1051
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:02,640
indication that that is inaccurate that

1052
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:04,410
they are having conversations about

1053
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:06,810
unknowns and whether or not there's

1054
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:08,850
action underway behind the scenes

1055
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:11,520
yeah it's incredibly laughable and I

1056
00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:13,770
kind of come back to what Joe Rogan said

1057
00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:15,630
on his podcast because he did say some

1058
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:16,980
things in the past that were very

1059
00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:18,930
inaccurate he had people giving you know

1060
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:20,940
kind of bad data to him about for

1061
00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:23,760
example the tic-tock UFO case I mean Wow

1062
00:43:27,860 --> 00:43:25,740
wouldn't it be great to see flavor on

1063
00:43:29,330 --> 00:43:27,870
that platform commander flavor so again

1064
00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:29,340
you know my history of commander flavor

1065
00:43:33,530 --> 00:43:31,350
we talked for many years prior I kept

1066
00:43:35,780 --> 00:43:33,540
his secret about the exact UFO case you

1067
00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:35,790
and I actually broke that story twice on

1068
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:38,070
coast to coast before the New York Times

1069
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,050
so yes I'm intimately involved that case

1070
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:42,720
and it's public knowledge now commander

1071
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,610
Faber said it so we do know that

1072
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:47,220
commander flavor did brief Congress and

1073
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,930
closed-door briefings that he brought

1074
00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:50,880
other people that is public information

1075
00:43:58,280 --> 00:43:55,020
now so there is an interest there is a

1076
00:44:00,320 --> 00:43:58,290
unique moment you released document if I

1077
00:44:03,460 --> 00:44:00,330
recall correctly that showed that all

1078
00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:03,470
stop was trying to get special access

1079
00:44:09,110 --> 00:44:05,550
permission that it was trying to get

1080
00:44:11,570 --> 00:44:09,120
access to other UFO programs this is a

1081
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:11,580
moment when Congress is listening we

1082
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:13,410
don't need the people that already know

1083
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,960
we need the people on the tipping point

1084
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:18,240
we need the people who are on the fence

1085
00:44:22,610 --> 00:44:20,610
and so there are things and works right

1086
00:44:25,310 --> 00:44:22,620
now that I think can greatly influence

1087
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:25,320
the the closed-door congressional

1088
00:44:30,290 --> 00:44:27,410
briefings the public wants to know

1089
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:30,300
you're talking about area 51 of course

1090
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:31,830
the public wants to know about that

1091
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:33,090
they're legitimate national security

1092
00:44:38,570 --> 00:44:35,370
secrets out there legitimate programs

1093
00:44:40,070 --> 00:44:38,580
that that should rightfully remain out

1094
00:44:41,870 --> 00:44:40,080
of sight out of the sight of our

1095
00:44:43,940 --> 00:44:41,880
adversaries but this is something

1096
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:43,950
different I think there's a shell game

1097
00:44:48,650 --> 00:44:46,770
that's been played for a long time and I

1098
00:44:51,590 --> 00:44:48,660
do believe that the one critical thing

1099
00:44:54,410 --> 00:44:51,600
is our material science we do understand

1100
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:54,420
how gravity propelled craft works we

1101
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:56,040
understand the physics where's that

1102
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,140
exactly how it works the limiting factor

1103
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:00,720
is our material science our ability to

1104
00:45:05,090 --> 00:45:02,910
replicate the materials not even to

1105
00:45:07,550 --> 00:45:05,100
mention the fuel source on how these

1106
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:07,560
things actually physically mechanically

1107
00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:09,930
operate and even with nanotechnology as

1108
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:12,990
it is right now we are eons away but I'm

1109
00:45:18,110 --> 00:45:16,650
a hopeful person in humanity you know

1110
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:18,120
we're talking about the technology we

1111
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:19,740
don't have to reveal the technology you

1112
00:45:23,810 --> 00:45:22,770
could talk about the fact that if it was

1113
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:23,820
out there

1114
00:45:27,860 --> 00:45:26,610
acknowledge it right you know look that

1115
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:27,870
that's the highest-ranking military

1116
00:45:30,890 --> 00:45:29,640
individual that I've ever spoken with in

1117
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:30,900
my entire life

1118
00:45:37,010 --> 00:45:32,690
he made a point of saying to me one time

1119
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:37,020
the government works for you 99.9% of

1120
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:38,850
this stuff it's not truly national

1121
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:41,760
security you should know it is your

1122
00:45:48,590 --> 00:45:45,570
human right to know to have questions

1123
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:48,600
answered if like Bob Lazar emphasized in

1124
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:51,450
in my film that that we have been

1125
00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:53,790
contacted by another technologically

1126
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,740
advanced civilization in our universe

1127
00:46:01,460 --> 00:45:57,960
and they appear to be visiting earth now

1128
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:01,470
that that is a reality whose time has

1129
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:01,830
come

1130
00:46:07,580 --> 00:46:05,280
I think the secrecy personally it's not

1131
00:46:09,380 --> 00:46:07,590
what people think that the secrecy and I

1132
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:09,390
and I agree with Bob he said in my film

1133
00:46:14,650 --> 00:46:12,030
as well he emphasized this in myself the

1134
00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:14,660
the same technology that could

1135
00:46:20,510 --> 00:46:16,830
instantaneously alter the path of

1136
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,520
humanity the very next day that it could

1137
00:46:27,170 --> 00:46:24,480
be weaponized and this is the reason for

1138
00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:27,180
the secrecy and I understand that that's

1139
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,350
a double edged sword

1140
00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:30,720
however the basics the base

1141
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:32,040
understanding

1142
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:35,550
nobody should own that if it is known

1143
00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:37,170
that we are not alone in the universe

1144
00:46:43,730 --> 00:46:41,640
that needs to be told I had got a

1145
00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:43,740
message from Bob you know I don't talk

1146
00:46:47,950 --> 00:46:45,420
to him every day I am in

1147
00:46:50,089 --> 00:46:47,960
communication with them every week or so

1148
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:50,099
you were in communication with them a

1149
00:46:53,329 --> 00:46:51,630
lot more than that but he had toyed with

1150
00:46:56,420 --> 00:46:53,339
the idea of calling in tonight and

1151
00:46:59,059 --> 00:46:56,430
that's what's what are things have been

1152
00:47:01,220 --> 00:46:59,069
like for him since the film came out and

1153
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:01,230
also since the Rogen Joe Rogan interview

1154
00:47:06,049 --> 00:47:03,390
because the Rogen interview reached a

1155
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:06,059
whole different audience and I know my

1156
00:47:11,809 --> 00:47:09,030
emails and phone calls blew up all over

1157
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,819
again was some of the same kinds of

1158
00:47:16,099 --> 00:47:13,920
questions and controversies that have

1159
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:16,109
been addressed many times over the last

1160
00:47:20,839 --> 00:47:18,690
thirty years thirty years come November

1161
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,849
what's it been like for him in the last

1162
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:23,040
couple of months you know it's funny we

1163
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:24,510
talked about that when we were walking

1164
00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:27,450
out from where Joe podcast he turned to

1165
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:28,740
me and said you better shave your beard

1166
00:47:34,670 --> 00:47:31,140
I thought he was like joking right

1167
00:47:38,450 --> 00:47:34,680
it has transmuted this entire experience

1168
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:38,460
for for Bob for me that the world is now

1169
00:47:45,170 --> 00:47:40,650
talking about this in a completely

1170
00:47:48,740 --> 00:47:45,180
different way Joe allowed Bob to tell

1171
00:47:52,789 --> 00:47:48,750
you what happened to him and that was so

1172
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:52,799
powerful it was so profound more than

1173
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:55,440
people understand and so with Bob's

1174
00:47:59,059 --> 00:47:56,970
everyday life you know he's kind of

1175
00:48:01,130 --> 00:47:59,069
isolated he works in his lab and in his

1176
00:48:03,049 --> 00:48:01,140
shop and he doesn't really engage the

1177
00:48:06,349 --> 00:48:03,059
outside world that much but those brief

1178
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:06,359
encounters when he does he understands

1179
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:08,790
now he understands that that phone

1180
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:11,040
meeting you actually took a photo of

1181
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,710
that put it on Twitter a phone meeting

1182
00:48:16,970 --> 00:48:15,660
with Joe Rogan called and I was kind of

1183
00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:16,980
trying to convince Bob to make a

1184
00:48:20,450 --> 00:48:19,079
decision you know does he want to put

1185
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:20,460
his face out there in that kind of way

1186
00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:24,329
that photo was prophetic Joe was telling

1187
00:48:29,870 --> 00:48:27,630
us we have an opportunity to alter the

1188
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:29,880
way people have this conversation on a

1189
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:33,710
on a pop-culture level and he was right

1190
00:48:40,609 --> 00:48:37,680
so I think bob has been vindicated in a

1191
00:48:42,349 --> 00:48:40,619
lot of way more than he ever anticipated

1192
00:48:44,569 --> 00:48:42,359
because he said from the very beginning

1193
00:48:47,410 --> 00:48:44,579
to you he said I cannot prove this story

1194
00:48:50,450 --> 00:48:47,420
in full but what happened to me is

1195
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,460
exactly like I'm saying so I think his

1196
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:52,319
life has changed in a lot of ways I I

1197
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:55,680
could see that there's a joy in him that

1198
00:49:01,280 --> 00:48:58,800
people have have at least heard

1199
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:01,290
he has to say take it for whatever value

1200
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:04,050
you think it should be value but look

1201
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:05,390
again we're living in a different world

1202
00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:09,210
you've got commander flavor he saw your

1203
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:11,460
foe fighting for five minutes he chased

1204
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:14,720
a UFO for the United States military

1205
00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:19,710
it absolutely nullified nullified any

1206
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:22,560
attack that he could possibly make no

1207
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:24,180
wait this is just a classified drone

1208
00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:25,200
right it's ours

1209
00:49:29,450 --> 00:49:27,420
I mean it's we're joking and that's kind

1210
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:29,460
of a funny thing to say but you know it

1211
00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:31,500
is so utterly ridiculous I was just

1212
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:33,900
taught so there's a comic his name is

1213
00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:35,610
Dave Foley you probably know from kids

1214
00:49:39,860 --> 00:49:37,950
in the hall really intelligent dude and

1215
00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:39,870
you know he kind of was talking to me

1216
00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:42,440
recently and and he says you know look

1217
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:46,350
when they talk about Occam's razor he

1218
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,050
said it's not the most mundane answer

1219
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:53,040
that's correct it's it's the most simple

1220
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:54,690
it's the most obvious it's the most

1221
00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:57,330
clear it's the it's the one that's right

1222
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:58,680
in front of you and I thought that was

1223
00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:00,720
so smart and that echoed what Joe Rogan

1224
00:50:05,630 --> 00:50:03,180
said on his podcast which is he finds

1225
00:50:08,180 --> 00:50:05,640
that debunkers or these you know

1226
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:08,190
quote-unquote skeptics that they're

1227
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:11,130
fundamentally lazy they're constantly

1228
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:13,770
just trying to belittle anything complex

1229
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,290
more complex than a spoon hosannah

1230
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:19,200
diktat so yeah to hit on your joke there

1231
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:22,650
this was absolutely an anomalous aerial

1232
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:25,890
vehicle of advanced technology unlike

1233
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,190
humanity has ever made or can make in

1234
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:31,680
foreseeable future all governments know

1235
00:50:36,590 --> 00:50:34,350
about it all are fighting to master this

1236
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:36,600
technology because whoever can reverse

1237
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:38,490
engineered this gravity propulsion

1238
00:50:45,790 --> 00:50:40,710
system they win period

1239
00:50:49,340 --> 00:50:45,800
. they win so the tick-tack UFO was

1240
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:49,350
absolutely an unidentified an a a be an

1241
00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:51,510
enormous aero gravity propelled vehicle

1242
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:53,790
and hopefully you heard commander flavor

1243
00:50:58,730 --> 00:50:55,910
tell you about his first-hand encounter

1244
00:51:02,210 --> 00:50:58,740
with why it couldn't have been a glitch

1245
00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:02,220
on the radar well that'd be a tall order

1246
00:51:06,860 --> 00:51:04,230
to get him to come out I won't even ask

1247
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:06,870
you about that let me add mention about

1248
00:51:11,450 --> 00:51:08,370
Rogan so Rogan is an interesting

1249
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:11,460
character on the multiple levels

1250
00:51:15,170 --> 00:51:13,140
it would be fun to have him on the other

1251
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:15,180
side of this microphone sitting in the

1252
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:16,529
chair where you're sitting to ask him

1253
00:51:21,410 --> 00:51:18,359
some questions I I don't have the time

1254
00:51:23,739 --> 00:51:21,420
to listen to podcasts his is one of the

1255
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,749
few that I ever tuned into when he's

1256
00:51:28,279 --> 00:51:25,440
specifically when he's talking about

1257
00:51:30,049 --> 00:51:28,289
UFOs and I've seen him take both sides I

1258
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:30,059
mean you know he's been really harsh

1259
00:51:36,859 --> 00:51:33,170
when he thinks somebody is biessing him

1260
00:51:40,789 --> 00:51:36,869
but it seems like he's been transformed

1261
00:51:43,789 --> 00:51:40,799
by his interest in in the area 51's for

1262
00:51:45,739 --> 00:51:43,799
bob lazar stuff Joe Rogan is a brutally

1263
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:45,749
honest individual that has been my

1264
00:51:52,009 --> 00:51:48,569
experience I think that he is absolutely

1265
00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:52,019
open and I think that he did something

1266
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:55,289
kind of heroic in allowing Bob to tell

1267
00:51:59,539 --> 00:51:57,150
his account of what happened to him but

1268
00:52:01,519 --> 00:51:59,549
but really I equate it to there's not

1269
00:52:04,370 --> 00:52:01,529
many people that really wanted to know

1270
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,380
if bob was telling the truth they wanted

1271
00:52:09,259 --> 00:52:06,720
to jump into judgment where Joe Rogan

1272
00:52:11,390 --> 00:52:09,269
got to meet him Bob went to one of his

1273
00:52:12,980 --> 00:52:11,400
comedy shows he got you know Joe and Bob

1274
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:12,990
got to kind of get to know each other a

1275
00:52:18,799 --> 00:52:15,930
little bit and Bob had the opportunity

1276
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:18,809
to to state his case and Joe gave him

1277
00:52:22,999 --> 00:52:20,940
that because Joe really wanted and I

1278
00:52:24,620 --> 00:52:23,009
think he still wants to know the truth

1279
00:52:26,809 --> 00:52:24,630
about that I think it's important to him

1280
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:26,819
yeah I would love if the tables were

1281
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:28,890
reversed I would like to know what Joe

1282
00:52:33,289 --> 00:52:30,390
thinks I would like to have that

1283
00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:33,299
conversation in that way absolutely he's

1284
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:35,369
a brilliant minded he's straightforward

1285
00:52:40,430 --> 00:52:37,980
and brutally honest absolutely

1286
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:40,440
so one day I hope to hear that but I

1287
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:42,180
think he speaks volumes in in many ways

1288
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:44,249
and I think you'll hear more from Joe

1289
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:46,079
about this and yes I do think the script

1290
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:48,210
was flipped he said to me that my movie

1291
00:52:52,220 --> 00:52:50,400
you know changed his mind about it and

1292
00:52:54,109 --> 00:52:52,230
and that's you know very flattering and

1293
00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:54,119
you know that's great wasn't me though I

1294
00:52:59,059 --> 00:52:55,980
mean my movie hopefully was entertaining

1295
00:53:02,059 --> 00:52:59,069
but that was um that was there was Bob's

1296
00:53:04,789 --> 00:53:02,069
account that did that but at least Joe

1297
00:53:07,549 --> 00:53:04,799
was open enough to watch and to listen

1298
00:53:10,370 --> 00:53:07,559
and I did see a change because there was

1299
00:53:12,229 --> 00:53:10,380
a time when you know he just didn't want

1300
00:53:14,420 --> 00:53:12,239
to hear any more CooCoo because he was

1301
00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:14,430
enough you know with all the people that

1302
00:53:18,049 --> 00:53:16,140
were cuckoo for cocoa puffs it was a

1303
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:18,059
data poor perspective he was getting

1304
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:21,450
people who were I don't even say fringe

1305
00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:24,730
they were full of BS so thankfully he's

1306
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:27,160
had some people now that are coming on

1307
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:29,320
to give him some basic information that

1308
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:30,790
he could rely on he can take it to the

1309
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:33,280
bank he's a loud voice I hope he's an

1310
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:35,950
ally to get to the truth whatever that

1311
00:53:40,170 --> 00:53:37,570
truth may be well his Reach is

1312
00:53:42,030 --> 00:53:40,180
incredible I mean I had no I knew it was

1313
00:53:44,580 --> 00:53:42,040
big but I had no idea and I and you

1314
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:44,590
referenced that photo I took that when

1315
00:53:49,590 --> 00:53:45,970
we were at lazarre's house in Michigan

1316
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:49,600
some months ago and having a cell phone

1317
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:51,430
conversation with Rogan on the other end

1318
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:53,050
three of us on one end him on the other

1319
00:53:57,060 --> 00:53:55,150
and listening to his pitch about Bob

1320
00:53:59,580 --> 00:53:57,070
doing the show and you know after we

1321
00:54:01,650 --> 00:53:59,590
finished we went back and I was share

1322
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:01,660
private thoughts there that we were went

1323
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:04,480
back and forth about what Joe Rogan's

1324
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:06,610
ultimate intent was and it turns out it

1325
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:08,410
was exactly what he said it was it said

1326
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:10,300
he was curious he wanted to hear the

1327
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:11,710
story and and share it with his

1328
00:54:16,020 --> 00:54:12,970
listeners and that's what he did

1329
00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:16,030
yeah Joe Rogan is a man of his word I do

1330
00:54:21,060 --> 00:54:18,460
believe that as I like to say his

1331
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,070
curiosity has been weaponized once again

1332
00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:23,440
meaning that he wants to actively

1333
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:25,840
participate in getting closer to the

1334
00:54:30,510 --> 00:54:27,520
truth on this subject because it is

1335
00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:30,520
absolutely compelling right now we know

1336
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:32,440
more today than we did before

1337
00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:36,490
and he's right skeptics are lazy there

1338
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:37,960
there's there's one way to look at

1339
00:54:40,770 --> 00:54:39,190
something and try to come to the truth

1340
00:54:42,930 --> 00:54:40,780
and there's another way to try to you

1341
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:42,940
know always try to fit a square block

1342
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:45,640
into a round hole and I think that the

1343
00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:48,490
Joe has spoken and I think that he will

1344
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:50,920
continue to seek the truth and I am

1345
00:54:56,340 --> 00:54:53,740
grateful for that we need allies in this

1346
00:54:59,370 --> 00:54:56,350
we need people who really want to know

1347
00:55:02,400 --> 00:54:59,380
not people that just really want to

1348
00:55:04,020 --> 00:55:02,410
confine the truth to whatever their whim

1349
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:04,030
is and I think they'll have an

1350
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,390
opportunity in conversation now that we

1351
00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:09,520
didn't before so I am eternally grateful

1352
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:12,550
that he allowed Bob to talk and I really

1353
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:15,300
hope that Joe gets more credible

1354
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:19,330
powerful witnesses and people to talk

1355
00:55:25,290 --> 00:55:21,610
with because I think the public needs to

1356
00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:25,300
hear it well the result of his broadcast

1357
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,550
I mean his his podcast is that we're

1358
00:55:32,490 --> 00:55:29,680
here tonight talking about storm area51

1359
00:55:35,730 --> 00:55:32,500
and its various incarnations and what

1360
00:55:38,460 --> 00:55:35,740
could be a fairly large gathering or two

1361
00:55:40,349 --> 00:55:38,470
we're not quite sure which if there's

1362
00:55:42,359 --> 00:55:40,359
well they're good plans for more than

1363
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:42,369
one two different ones on the same dates

1364
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:44,710
and then some part big parties in Las

1365
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:46,630
Vegas do I'm not organizing I'm

1366
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:48,910
advocating I share the same fears but

1367
00:55:52,890 --> 00:55:51,190
also the same hopes it is important to

1368
00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:52,900
know that we are not stopping this

1369
00:55:57,690 --> 00:55:55,270
September 20th is happening there's a

1370
00:55:59,820 --> 00:55:57,700
storm brewing we have to deal with that

1371
00:56:01,500 --> 00:55:59,830
fact so I like what locals are doing

1372
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:01,510
such as George Harris with Basecamp

1373
00:56:05,849 --> 00:56:03,490
creating a safe environment now you

1374
00:56:08,430 --> 00:56:05,859
should also know I'm creating a call to

1375
00:56:10,830 --> 00:56:08,440
action so pay attention there will be a

1376
00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:10,840
document it will be a weapon that if

1377
00:56:14,849 --> 00:56:12,190
placed in the right hands of our

1378
00:56:17,550 --> 00:56:14,859
representatives it will help enact true

1379
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:17,560
and lasting change pay attention to my

1380
00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:19,390
social media there will be a call to

1381
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:22,030
action it will help us and then finally

1382
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:25,090
walking Twitter there will be a campaign

1383
00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:27,369
to harness the potential energy of those

1384
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:29,140
who cannot physically be there and

1385
00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:31,810
contribute so two things there will be a

1386
00:56:35,730 --> 00:56:33,670
call to action you'll be able to sign

1387
00:56:37,410 --> 00:56:35,740
you live the health and second there

1388
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:37,420
will be a Twitter campaign to invoke

1389
00:56:42,839 --> 00:56:40,150
everybody that can't be a look exciting

1390
00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:42,849
times this is amazing we're gonna allow

1391
00:56:47,970 --> 00:56:45,580
this to go the right direction safety

1392
00:56:50,190 --> 00:56:47,980
first and let's have a good time

1393
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:50,200
thanks Jeremy appreciate it and we'll be

1394
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:52,510
in touch I'll probably see you out there